Comments on: That Tony Attwood Controversy

By: Oddpod

Oddpod — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:00:16 +0000

‘Autistic’ as a collective of personality traits can be a gift and Alexithymia, an Obsessive-Compulsive personality or Social Emotional Agnosia commonly taken as ‘Autism’ should not be demonised and should be recognised for some of their social advantages (and challenges). But nor should various personality disorders be confused with ‘autism’, particularly in those ‘self diagnosed’ because similar isn’t same, although one can have both autism and personality disorders just as one can have autism and co-morbids.

Autism as dyspraxias and agnosias associated with poor neurological integration can have some advantageous adaptations but is a disability, sometimes a severe one.
Minor neurological differences are important to society and can bring many gifts, yes. But when these are multiple and extreme the same gifts can be well outweighed by the level of disability.

‘Autism’ as a gut, immune, metabolic disorder effects a percentage and there are those predisposed to cellular disorders, we can’t escape that. (I’ve been diagnosed with and treated for 2 primary immune deficiencies, gluten intolerance, salicylate/phenol intolerance, severe milk allergy, functional B12 deficiency, severe magnesium deficiency, type 2 diabetes, systemic Candida, CFS so if anyone is NOT in this group, please don’t comment on life-threatening health conditions you’ve never lived with). This does NOT make this presentation of Autism that of others without neurologically impairing health conditions and nor should those without diagnosable health issues be put through endangering and expensive treatments designed to save those who do. There should be sensible screening at 6 mths of age (when the mother’s immunity wears off) for those with these health conditions so their health can be managed without dangerous chelation and their immunity improved so they can tolerate a sensible regime of vaccination which will avoid the disease epidemics which kill so many other children. We need to distinguish between ‘autistic’ the adjective, and ‘autisms’ as medical conditions and that some people can fit both.

By: Andrew Levin

Andrew Levin — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:47:48 +0000

autism is a gift, it is a neurological adpatation that occurs within the womb

what has happened, especially with the dominance by the americans and thier horrendous vaccine scheduling from birth in recent decades is “like autisms that is damage that looks like autism without the gift

just crappy murderous social seeking

you have lived long enough to see how dumbed down everything is now

By: Oddpod

Oddpod — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:57:04 +0000

I agree that given that autism and Asperger’s are SYNDROMES and in fact made up of different combinations of conditions – agnosias, aphasias, personality traits, dyspraxia, ADHD, mood/anxiety/compulsive disorders, sometimes gut/immune/metabolic disorders etc, the possessiveness and bitching and hatred and preciousness about the labels just seems an infinite pedantry. Also, what moves me, connects me to the world, or any human, is their MUSIC not whether their system is autistic or not. If they have freedom, equality, grace in their soul, I’ll feel it. Whether they are autistic or not says little of the music of their personhood. But what the hell would I know, I sense my world, feel it. I’m logical to the max, but I feel the music.

By: Oddpod

Oddpod — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:52:31 +0000

yes, Bukowski, so wonderfully sane.
I agree, I can’t see anything autistic about infighting and groups
political, yes, dogmatic, yes,
but I am a walking arts machine because arts is my own world, and mostly a solitary one
so I can’t see how anyone can stand endless political pedantry
but then I’m not Aspie.

By: Andrew Levin

Andrew Levin — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:09:20 +0000

who cares

about an autism diagnosis?

why this need for insane referents?

infinity cleans my shoes!

By: Andrew Levin

Andrew Levin — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:50:16 +0000

the whole problem with autistic spectrum is 99.999% are hashed reflections of their parents and society and never break free, indeed become robots for some impaired vision they have constructed, even tho its nominally anti-establishment

you have to look across the generations for autistic sanity, its so rare

catullus and charles bukowski, yes thats sanity

what has autism to do with groups?

well the endless maladpative infighing

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By: Oddpod

Oddpod — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:21:50 +0000

Also I think the desire to hate celebs needs to be separated from an autism issue. Gossip mags like Hello and the like encourage a culture of ‘humanising’ celebs generally through dehumanising them. If this is someone’s cultural choie, to join compensatory narcissism, so be it, but they need to be clear that this has nothing to do with being interested in or supportive of those with autism.

By: Oddpod

Oddpod — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:59:49 +0000

And if leftists want to fixate on Tony’s lecture fee, then at least get clear that his fee is a capitalism issue not an autism issue. If they are angry at capitalism, then state that.

By: Oddpod

Oddpod — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:55:42 +0000

Also, I agree, if spectrumites can celebrate Bill Gates being an icon, what hypocracy that they demonise anyone who chooses to charge $4,000 a lecture. That would be pocket money to Bill Gates.